Forgiveness or Hate?

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Victim’s Mother Tells Dylann Roof ‘I Forgive You’ as He’s Sentenced to Death!

What is the difference between Forgiveness and Hate? Why do some turn to God and others turn to blaming God? Why is it harder to love than to hate? (Or is it?)

“O that I were an angel, and could have the wish of mine heart, that I might go forth and speak with the trump of God, with a voice to shake the earth, and cry repentance unto every people!

The above is a favorite scripture of mine. My entire desire is to share the Gospel, to help others see that He loves us all. The Lord judges fairly and we as a people from a great country need to learn LOVE!.

“That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.” John 1:9 All that wer born on this earth made a promise in Heaven to follow Christ. Each of us received His Light. We need to learn and follow taht Light..

“Yea, I would declare unto every soul, as with the voice of thunder, repentance and the plan of redemption, that they should repent and come unto our God, that there might not be more sorrow upon all the face of the earth”. Alma 29:1-2 We must repent often and sometimes daily. What am i doing today to repent? Am I adding to the world or am I taking away with judgement? My heart goes out to all oppressed and vilified people of this world especially those of Black descent. It’s hare to imagine the hate and racism that has happened to them. I do however believe that the Lord can help us all, white and black to forgive and love one another.

“For I say unto you that whatsoever is good cometh from God, and whatsoever is evil cometh from the devil. Whey can’t we as Children of a Loving Father understand this simple sentence? We know in our heart what is good and what is not.

“Therefore, if a man bringeth forth good works he hearkeneth unto the voice of the good shepherd, and he doth follow him; but whosoever bringeth forth evil works, the same becometh a child of the devil, for he hearkeneth unto his voice, and doth follow him.” Alma 5:40-41

“And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the alight by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.

Wherefore, I beseech of you, brethren, that ye should search diligently in the alight of Christ that ye may know good from evil; and if ye will lay hold upon every good thing, and condemn it not, ye certainly will be a child of Christ.” Moroni 7:18-19

“And the Spirit giveth light to every man that cometh into the world; and the Spirit enlighteneth every man through the world, that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit.” D&C 84:46

Below you will read three basic stories. 1- The forgiving Amish people who had their family members killed and they forgave is an inspirational story. 2- There are some amazing members of a Charleston Church who are some of the greatest lovers of God you will ever want to meet. 3- The story of the George Floyd killing has set off two separate positions. You judge which one is of God and which one is not? This is why I ask, “What is the difference between Forgiveness and Hate?”

Amish Girls Shot in an Amish School

Following the tragic Amish school shooting of 10 young schoolgirls in a one-room Amish school in October 2006, reporters from throughout the world invaded Lancaster County, PA to cover the story. (You can read the full story of the Amish school shooting here.)  However, in the hours and days following the shooting a different, an unexpected story developed.

Amish Forgiveness in Response to School Shooting

In the midst of their grief over this shocking loss, the Amish community didn’t cast blame, they didn’t point fingers, they didn’t hold a press conference with attorneys at their sides. Instead, they reached out with grace and compassion toward the killer’s family.

The afternoon of the shooting an Amish grandfather of one of the girls who was killed expressed forgiveness toward the killer, Charles Roberts. That same day Amish neighbors visited the Roberts family to comfort them in their sorrow and pain.

Later that week the Roberts family was invited to the funeral of one of the Amish girls who had been killed. And Amish mourners outnumbered the non-Amish at Charles Roberts’ funeral.

It’s ironic that the killer was tormented for nine years by the pre-mature death of his young daughter. He never forgave God for her death. Yet, after he cold-bloodedly shot 10 innocent Amish school girls, the Amish almost immediately forgave him and showed compassion toward his family.

In a world at war and in a society that often points fingers and blames others, this reaction was unheard of. Many reporters and interested followers of the story asked, “How could they forgive such a terrible, unprovoked act of violence against innocent lives?”

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Roof was sentenced to death for killing nine churchgoers at a Bible study.

By EMILY SHAPIROJanuary 11, 2017

Wife of Charleston Shooting Victim Says She's Glad Sentencing Is Over

Wife of Charleston Shooting Victim Says She’s Glad Sentencing Is Over Roof was sentenced to death today for killing nine churchgoers in 2015.

— — Felicia Sanders, the mother of one of the nine victims killed by Dylann Roof in a Charleston church, told Roof this morning at an emotional sentencing hearing, “I forgive you.”

“That’s the easiest thing I had to do. But you don’t want to help somebody who don’t want to help themselves,” she told her son’s killer, according to ABC affiliate WCIV. “May God have mercy on your soul.”

Sanders survived Roof’s shooting rampage on June 17, 2015, that killed nine black parishioners who had gathered at the Charleston, South Carolina, church for Bible study. She was there when her son, Tywanza Sanders, was shot to death.

A jury on Tuesday afternoon sentenced Roof to death. His formal sentencing was held today, during which Felicia Sanders and other family and friends of the victims addressed Roof directly in court. Roof did not look at them as they spoke. After the statements from family and friends, Roof declined to speak. Roof was then formally sentenced to death.

Robert ManiscalcoDylann Roof is depicted during his sentencing hearing in federal court in Charleston, S.C., Jan. 11, 2017.Dylann Roof is depicted during his sentencing hearing in federal court in Charleston, S.C., Jan. 11, 2017.Robert Maniscalco

“You took my love away from me. And since June 17 I’ve gotten to know you,” Felicia Sanders said to Roof at his sentencing hearing, according to WCIV. “I know you because you are in my head all day.”

“I can’t hear balloons pop. I can’t see the fireworks,” she continued. She explained that she can’t shut her eyes to pray because she needs to keep them open to see those around her.

Tywanza Sanders’ father, Tyrone Sanders, said to Roof, “I need you to look at me.”

“You look at each individual in this room. Each and every one of us are a little different, but we are still human,” he said, according to WCIV. “Why you want to single out black people in a church I don’t know. But whoever your creator is needs to come be with you.”

Grace Beahm/The Post And Courier via AP PhotoParents of Tywanza Sanders, Tyrone Sanders and Felicia Sanders comfort each other at the graveside of their son at Emanuel AME Cemetery in Charleston, South Carolina, in this June 27, 2015 file photo.Parents of Tywanza Sanders, Tyrone Sanders and Felicia Sanders comfort each other at the graveside of their son at Emanuel AME Cemetery in Charleston, South Carolina, in this June 27, 2015 file photo.Grace Beahm/The Post And Courier via AP Photo

According to WCIV, Tywanza Sanders’ sister, Shirrene Goss, told Roof, “One day it’s going to come to you and you’re going to realize you did not have to do this. And it’s going to bring you to your knees. And you’re going to have to ask — no — you’re going to have to beg, for forgiveness.”

“My brother didn’t deserve what he got,” she said. “None of the victims did. But you deserve every bit of the sentence you received.”

Roof, 22, was sentenced to death by the jury after three hours of deliberations on Tuesday. Roof was convicted of hate crimes resulting in death, among other charges, in his federal death penalty case. This is the first time a death penalty verdict was rendered in a federal hate crimes case, the Justice Department said.

Before the jury began deliberating, Roof told the jury Tuesday in a closing statement, “I still feel like I had to do it.”

Bethane Middleton-Brown, sister of the slain Rev. Depayne Middleton-Doctor, said to Roof today, according to WCIV, “I wanted to hate you, but my faith tells me no. I wanted to remain angry and bitter, but my view of life won’t let me.”

“You took someone precious from me, but my faith tells me she was a borrowed angel God called home,” she said, according to WCIV. To Roof, she said, “You can’t look at me, but when you’re alone you will hear my voice and see my face.”

Stephen B. Morton/AP PhotoMourners pass by a make-shift memorial on the sidewalk in front of the Emanuel AME Church following a shooting by Dylann Roof in Charleston, S.C., June 18, 2015.Mourners pass by a make-shift memorial on the sidewalk in front of the Emanuel AME Church following a shooting by Dylann Roof in Charleston, S.C., June 18, 2015.Stephen B. Morton/AP Photo

Middleton-Doctor’s daughter, Gracyn, called Roof “Satan.”

“You will rot in hell where you belong,” she said, as Roof sat motionless, according to WCIV. “I hope your guilt eats you alive. While you’re pleading for life and begging for your life, I hope God forgives you, the one sin I’m not sure even he can forgive. … This spawn of Satan will not steal our joy.”

Middleton-Doctor’s niece addressed Roof as “the devil sitting here today.”

“How dare you sit here every day looking dumb-faced, acting like you did nothing wrong, and had the nerve to insinuate you were misled. How dare you even smile or smirk. … I’ve wanted to wipe that smile off your face myself,” she said, according to WCIV. “You are the biggest coward I have ever seen in my life because you can’t be a man and look at us. … It really shows the kind person you are, excuse me, the kind of animal you are. I have many choice words I would love to say to you, but God is working on me so I will not.”

She said Roof’s mission “failed” because the tragedy brought people closer together.

Rose Simmons, daughter of the slain Rev. Daniel Simmons Sr., told Roof, “I loved my father. I was just like him. And I’m going to miss him and I will miss getting to know him all over again in my adult life. But I don’t grieve so much for my father because I know he and his eight precious eternal comrades, they are at this very moment experiencing the greatest peace, and that’s a peace not found here on this earth.”

She said she’s not surprised Roof hasn’t shown accountability, sorrow or remorse. “I know at this time it’s not there.”

Charleston County Sheriff/AFP Photo/Getty ImagesThis file photo taken on June 19, 2015 shows a Charleston County Sheriff booking photo of suspect Dylann Roof.This file photo taken on June 19, 2015 shows a Charleston County Sheriff booking photo of suspect Dylann Roof.Charleston County Sheriff/AFP Photo/Getty Images

Rev. Simmons’ son, Dan Simmons Jr., said to Roof, “I forgive you.”

“I know that you don’t understand that, but God requires me to forgive you. I forgive you. He also requires me to plead and pray for you, and I do that,” Simmons Jr. said, according to WCIV. “Understand that as you have been judged, know that you have an opportunity to ask for forgiveness. Know that you can change your life. Stay focused. I guarantee if you choose to serve him you will have a better life.”

Rev. Sharon Risher, daughter of slain churchgoer Ethel Lance, said she’s against Roof’s death sentence. “I still don’t want you to die,” Risher said, adding she wants him to sit in a jail cell.

Risher told Roof, WCIV reported, “You have opened doors, and given me a platform. … Hopefully you will get to read the newspapers because you will get to see me crusading for each of those nine people. … May God have mercy on you.”

Stephen B. Morto/AP PhotoJ. Denise Cromwell, left, hugs her daughter, Asia Cromwell, center, and a friend Sandy Teckledburg outside the Emanuel AME Church after a memorial in Charleston, S.C., June 19, 2015.J. Denise Cromwell, left, hugs her daughter, Asia Cromwell, center, and a friend Sandy Teckledburg outside the Emanuel AME Church after a memorial in Charleston, S.C., June 19, 2015.Stephen B. Morto/AP Photo

Lance’s son, Gary Washington, spoke today through sign language interpreters. He recounted the tragic moment he was told his mother was dead, and he said that since the shooting, he’s been left with no one to take care of him the way his mother could, WCIV reported. Washington said to Roof, “I know you’ll be burning in hell.”

Gail Jackson, niece of slain churchgoer Susie Jackson, said to Roof that to see him sit in court every day and never apologize hurts her.

She said she hopes his soul burns in hell. She added she hopes God has mercy on Roof’s mother’s soul.

Melvin Graham, brother of slain churchgoer Cynthia Hurd, said to Roof, the hate “you possess is beyond human comprehension.”

Robert ManiscalcoMelvin Graham, brother of slain churchgoer Cynthia Hurd, is depicted speaking to Dylann Roof in court in Charleston, S.C., Jan. 11, 2017.Melvin Graham, brother of slain churchgoer Cynthia Hurd, is depicted speaking to Dylann Roof in court in Charleston, S.C., Jan. 11, 2017.Robert Maniscalco

Graham said Roof wanted to start a race war, but instead started a love war; Graham said how Hurd was honored with a library, scholarships, a fellowship and more.

“When my sister was executed, it tore me apart,” Graham said. He said he and his sister used to go on walks, so after her funeral, he carried her the last steps of the way at the cemetery.

Jennifer Pinckney, whose husband, South Carolina State Sen. Clementa Pinckney, was killed in the shooting, told WCIV today that she’s glad that the process is over.

She had testified during the trial, saying her husband was a loving, devoted and involved father to their two young daughters, ages 12 and 7. She and her younger daughter were in an office at the church on the night of the shooting. They hid under a desk as gunshots rang out and put their hands over each other’s mouth.

Today Jennifer Pinckney said her daughters “miss daddy.”

“He was our rock,” she said, adding, “my girls have been strong. I’ve been very proud of them.”

Blondelle Gadsden, sister of slain churchgoer Myra Thompson, said she still wonders how a 21-year-old could carry out this attack, according to WCIV. Gadsden said she may not get those answers, but said she has gained a greater sense of God and an appreciation of her family — especially her parents -– after the attack.

Brenda Hargrove, aunt of slain churchgoer Sharonda Coleman-Singleton, spoke of her niece’s sweet spirit and their family’s close bond. Hargrove said her church in New Jersey gave Coleman-Singleton a memorial service.

U.S. Attorney Beth Drake of the District of South Carolina said Tuesday, “Motivated by racist hatred, Dylann Roof murdered and attempted to murder innocent African-American parishioners as they worshiped in the historic Mother Emanuel church.”

Stephen B. Morton/AP PhotoMen from Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc. lead a crowd of people in prayer outside the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, S.C., June 19, 2015.Men from Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc. lead a crowd of people in prayer outside the Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, S.C., June 19, 2015.Stephen B. Morton/AP Photo

“But, contrary to Roof’s desire to sow the seeds of hate, his acts did not tear this community apart. Instead of agitating racial tensions as he had hoped, Roof’s deadly attack inside Mother Emanuel became an attack on all of us, and the community stood in solidarity. Now, following a trial, the jury has rendered a sentence that underscores the severity of his crimes,” Drake said.

Roof’s family said in a statement, “We will always love Dylann. We will struggle as long as we live to understand why he committed this horrible attack, which caused so much pain to so many good people. We wish to express the grief we feel for the victims of his crimes, and our sympathy to the many families he has hurt. We continue to pray for the Emanuel AME families and the Charleston community.”

Roof’s defense said in a statement that the “sentencing decision means that this case will not be over for a very long time. We are sorry that, despite our best efforts, the legal proceedings have shed so little light on the reasons for this tragedy.”

Roof also faces a state trial in which he may again face the death penalty.

ABC News’ Anne Emerson contributed to this report. https://abcnews.go.com/US/charleston-victims-mother-tells-dylann-roof-forgive/story?id=44704096Charleston

George Floyd Killing

The killing by a white policeman of George Floyd was a terrible event in American History. I think this event was as bad as any other evil crime and was especially bad as many people feel it was another racist crime against people of color. I believe God loves us all and all of Christ’s Children deserve to live a productive life. When people’s lives are cut short, the Lord will judge a righteous judgement and we must turn that ultimate role unto Him

“What good came out of people rioting and looting? Is it the black-owned businesses that were destroyed, all in the name of Black Lives Matter? Or destroying the homes, stores and communities of black disabled women? 

Targets, Walmarts and other big box store chains weren’t the only ones who were impacted. And saying that looting a Target store somehow moves the conversation about police reform and racism forward is ignorant. It doesn’t do anything other than create a cycle of poverty.” Townhall


Chop Seattle

When civil and elected governments allow rioting and looting and disobeying all rules, you will get tyranny like you did in downtown Seattle. Following the rule of law is paramount to keeping order.

“The CHOP/ CHAZ in Seattle has finally been shutdown after almost a month of unrest in the city’s central Capitol Hill neighborhood. Its demise was not the end of a peaceful protest but a necessary curtailing by police and city leaders of a movement that turned violent and claimed the lives of two teenagers.

SEATTLE, WA – JUNE 14: A sign welcomes visitors on East Pine Street during ongoing Black Lives Matter events at the so-called “Capitol Hill Organized Protest” on June 14, 2020 in Seattle, Washington. Black Lives Matter protesters have continued demonstrating in what was first referred to as the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, which encompasses several blocks around the Seattle Police Departments vacated East Precinct, but what protesters are now calling the “Capitol Hill Organized Protest.” (Photo by David Ryder/Getty Images)

That shutdown should have been much sooner, as signs of violence and mal-intent abounded from early days. But the city’s mayor, Democrat Jenny Durkan sided with the protesters who insisted they were there only to peacefully demand racial justice following the death of George Floyd. 

“This could be a summer of love,” Durkan famously said.” Source


“While protesters camp out in our city parks, harass police officers attempting to keep the peace, and enjoy the taffy-soft submission of leftist mayors and governors across the country, U.S. cities are experiencing a dramatic uptick in violent deaths. But as hundreds of Americans perish within our own borders each week, the protests focus only on the deaths that help advance the cause of defeating the entirety of law enforcement within the United States. 

And they’re not losing. Hundreds of members of the NYPD have chosen to retire as Mayor Bill de Blasio and Governor Andrew Cuomo cowed to the mobs and refused to back up the police department, further promising to gut the budget.” Source

If you do what you have always done, you will get what you’ve always received. Things that don’t change stay the same and things that stay the same become obsolete. We as Americans must get a check up from the neck up to get rid of (As Zig Zigler said), Stinkin’ Thinkin’.

Again I ask the question, “Why do some turn to God and others turn to blaming God?” You choose.